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I'm loving all the Ep Two reaction posts, but the funniest has been Heather Hogan's parody recap at AfterElton. [livejournal.com profile] 51stcenturyfox linked to it and I'm going to read them religiously from now on... I even added [livejournal.com profile] aftereltontw to feeds so I won't miss any. My favorite part:

Gwen: OK, look, I’m still a little miffed that your presence in my life resulted in a helicopter shooting missiles at my baby, but mostly I’m furious about how boring my life was on that radish farm. I wrote some fanfic about how maybe you’d come back to earth in two hundred years, as handsome and charming as ever, and try to bone my great-great-great granddaughter.

Another favorite:

Captain Jack: You are such a waste of space and tax payer’s dollars. You need to be researching morphic fields. Start with the 1993 Doctor Who novel, Lucifer Rising, and then probably Wikipedia.

Some thoughts on criticisms of the show so far... I think the chelation scene was something people either loved or hated (I hated it).  It just struck me as so implausible, but trying so hard for plausibility, that I might have preferred a hand-wavy "Hey look I found some magic anti-arsenic powder in my underpants" solution. I'm not a scientist but I do a lot of popular science reading and I know doing chelation with a diabetes needle is just nuts. It reminds me of a Jackie Chan movie where there was a coconut IV. But then I looked it up and it turns out the coconut IV IS ACTUALLY MORE REALISTIC. Hahaha.

I do like the fact that there is so much humor on the show, even though some of it is a miss. That's what made me fall in love with Torchwood in the first place, and why it reminds me of a lot of my favorite Hong Kong movies: it tries to do everything at the same time except be tasteful. It's a maximalist throw-in-everything-but-the-kitchen-sink approach that deeply appeals to me. So we've got humor, action, horror, angst, sex, mystery, politics, pretty much everything you can think of.

A lot of people hated the newscaster. I didn't mind him. He was an awful cheesy journalist but there are lots of those on TV here and in other countries and I really think I've seen worse. I also didn't empathize with people wanting to forgive Oswald, at all, BUT I can make the leap of logic to believe that people might want to forgive him because of the unique mindset that everyone in the world is now experiencing. There's some radical change in mentality in the society that makes people think differently, that is, and part of that difference would be that some might want to forgive Oswald... even though the idea is pretty disgusting. But I can see it, even if I can't feel it.

Date: 2011-07-17 06:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] heddychaa.livejournal.com
I think if he'd have raped and murdered a teenage girl, the whole #forgiveness thing would actually

1. make a ton of sense re: our current society, no leap of logic necessary
2. be fucking chilling

Date: 2011-07-17 06:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azn-jack-fiend.livejournal.com
Ugh, I hadn't thought of that but I totally agree.

Date: 2011-07-17 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lyryk.livejournal.com
The whole Oswald thing is pretty fascinating. It's asking us to imagine a situation in which the world is going through this ontological crisis, and it raises the question of whether one reacts to it in the imagined context or whether one imagines it in one's actual context. Both of which seem to be equally valid and problematic. (I didn't find the scene with the newscaster convincing because it didn't seem to be particularly well-written, but that's a different issue.)

Oh man, that AE stuff is amazing!

Date: 2011-07-17 10:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azn-jack-fiend.livejournal.com
Hahah yeah it's hilarious.

That's a great point about the framing. I wonder if they're going to bring out more philosophical stuff, or if this is as deep as it gets in this episode, what with Tithonus and mentions of unpredictable behavior and such.

Date: 2011-07-17 07:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firefly124.livejournal.com
Not to mention THAT WAS SO NOT EVEN REMOTELY AN INSULIN NEEDLE! Insulin needles are tiny. That monstrosity you could pretty much use to give an massive injection in the butt, and that's about it.

Friend who's actually an organic chemist was utterly hysterical over the science!fail in the whole "let's make EDTA from stuff you can find on an airplane" thing.

Was it you who mentioned it felt like a House episode? There's a good reason for that: the writer is apparently a regular writer for House.

I agree that the humor is one of the things I like. It still doesn't feel like Torchwood yet, though. More like a Torchwood/X-Files crossover, if the X-Files was set in the CIA instead of the FBI.

Date: 2011-07-17 10:24 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azn-jack-fiend.livejournal.com
I think Torchwood is sooooo many things (S1/S2 was all over the dial from farce to tragedy) that it would be impossible for something to NOT seem like Torchwood to me unless it was... dull or consistently stupid. While I had problems with this ep, it definitely wasn't dull, and it had some very smart things mixed in with some very stupid ones.

Date: 2011-07-17 09:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 51stcenturyfox.livejournal.com
But if there was a coconut IV, we'd be watching Lost! :D I liked the chelation scene just because watching Gwen lose her shit on everyone and make them rip up the floor was awesome.

(I think I've read that fanfic, with Gwen's great-granddaughter...)

Date: 2011-07-17 10:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] azn-jack-fiend.livejournal.com
I wonder where Gwen posted it. If it had explicit sex, I guess it would probably be on LJ or A03!

Date: 2011-07-19 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] darthhellokitty.livejournal.com
I liked this one better than last week. Last week, I hardly laughed at all. I like my Torchwood with laughs.

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